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new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Symfoon » 16 Sep 2013, 10:47

O.k friends... don't tell anyone yet ;) but this wil be on the bonus disc if you're planning to buy to special/deluxe edition of Desolation Rose :mrgreen:

Project Name: TFK Bonus
Number of Tracks: 8
Disc Duration: 32:40:44
UPC/EAN Code: none
Start Name Length Pause Comment
1 00:02:00 Runaway Train 04:40:32 00:02:00
2 04:43:32 Interstellar Visitation 08:23:63 00:01:00
3 13:08:20 Lazy Monkey 02:23:73 00:01:00
4 15:33:18 Psalm 2013 02:08:54 00:01:00
5 17:43:71 The Wailing Wall 03:18:48 00:02:00
6 21:02:45 BadBeats 05:22:39 00:00:00
7 26:27:09 Burning Spears 03:13:70 00:02:00
8 29:43:04 The Final ERA 02:57:40 00:02:00
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Kaipa » 16 Sep 2013, 11:02

[quote="Chessman"][quote="**örn-Ola"]For me it is as simple as this.
Have I played it a lot?
Yes!
Well, then it is good enough.
I realise that I wont get the kick I had the first time I listened to a TFK album.
What ever they do.
And this is the reason TKK was put to hiatus. Roine felt whatever they do, people would complain. Its not as good as Flower Power, its not proggy enough, its too much prog. The songs are too short, no they are too long and boring, I found a boring moment from 5:32 to.... Bla,bla.
Come on.


I tend to agree with all this. We are so used to TFK producing top notch albums that we almost become immune to them. We expect maybe too much at times. Every TFK album is first class, imo, and most other bands would give their high teeth to release just one album as good in their entire career! Because they've set the bar so high, especially with their first half dozen albums, it's very hard for TFK to produce anything that could top any of them. One day they may release an album that we all go 'wow, that's their best ever!' but somehow I doubt it. Personally, I'll be quite happy if they just maintain their current standard. It is, after all, rather high... 8-)



Chessman, you're absolutely wright. You can't argue about one's taste but sometimes i think that there are fans who have a sort off negative mind about things. And we are fans of one of the most progressive bands ever with a sound that is every album different, but beautiful.
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby wowie » 16 Sep 2013, 19:29

Numbers is a very good track, A rating for me, highly consistant fesh playing and sounds and arrangements, very driving, amazing play from start to finish, very very good climax and different passages.
This is very very fine prog, very very close to the best that you can have.
Love of Gold the first half even tops it, this is pure fun and happiness, extremely driving, powerful, proggy, hooking .... great great first half.
The next two tracks are fine but mediocre, not that consistent and intense.
And we have a beautiful ending, the drums are a bit "sleepy" here as it is due to the very natural recording and production, but the melody is top notch tfk 1a quality with great Roine vocals. Which are all over the album!

The most important thing, their is "working movement/progression", and sometimes, you just need time for that. Specially if you are in a retro-rock band that already has 10 albums out. A lot of fans said that before we came to PH.

So Banks of Eden is not as good as many other tfk albums, but that doesnt say its a bad album or the lamest.
There are new things there, and it is much more powerful and catchy then many other tfk songs.
But well it has not that much quantity.

so the question is maybe, can we top RUMBLE FISH TWIST anymore?
;)

but hey, isnt that thread about the new one?
i just can say, i love the artwork!!

still, the titles remind me heavy to a fanclub cd.
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby progtastic mate » 19 Sep 2013, 11:38

just pre-ordered. Looking forward to a package in the post in October
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Björn-Ola » 22 Sep 2013, 13:28

http://www.rocknytt.net/intervjuer/1257 ... -nu-kommer
Interview with Roine.
In swedish and english.
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Chessman » 22 Sep 2013, 14:55

[quote="**örn-Ola"]http://www.rocknytt.net/intervjuer/12576-den-blomstertid-nu-kommer
Interview with Roine.
In swedish and english.


Great interview! Thanks for that! :)
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby projeKct » 25 Sep 2013, 15:33

The first audio preview of the album, posted by Roine:
https://soundcloud.com/pale-rider-1/flo ... ation-rose

8-)
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby wowie » 26 Sep 2013, 17:34

thanks dude!!

a lot of stuff!!!
some great and roiny vocal stuff already there!!
the guitars sounds ... rough ...

sounds like PH & BoE ... ;)
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby projeKct » 01 Oct 2013, 02:42

Well, on this image we learn that Michael Stolt, Nad Sylvan, Andy Tillison among others are singing on one track of Desolation Rose... 8-)
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby wowie » 02 Oct 2013, 08:03

Anybody knows who's Edgel Grooves Sr. & Daniel Gordon??
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Kaipa » 02 Oct 2013, 11:05

wowie wrote:Anybody knows who's Edgel Grooves Sr. & Daniel Gordon??



According to Google there is a Daniel Gordon Footballer, a Film director, and a photographer. Edsel Grooves is not on Google.

Maybe nicknames for atists as on the solo album from R. Stolt " Wallstreet Voodoo"
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby projeKct » 02 Oct 2013, 17:47

The making of Desolation Rose !

[youtube]GKK4pRNanOQ[/youtube]
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Max Power » 03 Oct 2013, 14:35

"What's new copycat" :P

Did they just say 'Gangs of Eden'? :D
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby wowie » 04 Oct 2013, 15:10

i will also roll up for the MEDICINE ZCARE GARDEN!!!!

you saw the little drum in front of the bass drum??
whats this??
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby projeKct » 04 Oct 2013, 23:49

wowie wrote:you saw the little drum in front of the bass drum??
whats this??

I was wondering the same thing... :?: :?: :?:
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby wowie » 07 Oct 2013, 10:43

Yamaha SubKick Low-Frequency Capture Device
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... ID=2750680
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby projeKct » 08 Oct 2013, 00:05

wowie wrote:Yamaha SubKick Low-Frequency Capture Device
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... ID=2750680

Really cool ! Thanks for the info ! 8-)
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Björn-Ola » 12 Oct 2013, 12:34

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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Max Power » 12 Oct 2013, 21:14

'It doesn’t eclipse previous gems like Space Revolver' enough said 8-)
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby wowie » 13 Oct 2013, 07:38

very interesting review, makes me extremely curious!!!
as there seems to be a wide abd different array of styles and stuff they use ....
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Chessman » 13 Oct 2013, 14:42

Great review! It backs up my often stated claim that they are one of the very few bands out there who can maintain a fantastically consistent quality in their work. :)
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Max Power » 16 Oct 2013, 23:50

"Tower ONE" is an over 13 minute epic to start this album off in the right direction. Stolt's vocals opens with, "She'll walk me slowly through burning spear. She'll be my shelter no sign of fear. She'll walk me slowly through wholesome light. She'll be my shelter. She'll be my eye". Stolt describes "an observation by an angel who resides in a mysterious tower, looking down on the entire world's ongoing perpetual insanity, yet unable to reach out and help"

Ring any bell?

http://www.seaoftranquility.org/reviews ... t&id=15210
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby progaor06 » 17 Oct 2013, 06:15

an angel i never heard of being locked up in tower i now repunzle rumple stiltskin iso ne owman in tower sleepy hollow maybe nother i get all these disney movies mixed up but as far as angel real agnel in tower never heard of this tale not even in the bible quote unquote i was rasied religiously also
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Kaipa » 17 Oct 2013, 11:32

progaor06 wrote:an angel i never heard of being locked up in tower i now repunzle rumple stiltskin iso ne owman in tower sleepy hollow maybe nother i get all these disney movies mixed up but as far as angel real agnel in tower never heard of this tale not even in the bible quote unquote i was rasied religiously also



Why do you think it has to do with the bible? Maybe it's a metaphore. When i read the review on S o T it is a good album and that's what it's all about.
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby wowie » 17 Oct 2013, 12:27

no bells ringing, what do you mean??

btw
new video up!
[youtube]b-AGdlyoR5A[/youtube]
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby projeKct » 17 Oct 2013, 13:15

Nice vid indeed! The song is pretty much in the style of "Banks of Eden"...

I was wondering two things:

1) Is it the full track, or just the first half or something...?

2) Who made this beautiful video? It's the first "official TFK video" that I know of...
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby wowie » 17 Oct 2013, 14:14

could be one song.
didnt say roine that the songs are "linked", so no breaks ...

and guessing that this is the weakest song on the album, this could be a marvelous trip!!! ;)

i also like the video, no "ugly" people holding instruments and trying to dance and look good ... ;)
still, its not enough for a real music video, but its enough for a youtube video ;)


... somehow, i think the drums sounds very good!!!!
but that could be "a" video mix ... :D
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Max Power » 17 Oct 2013, 14:21

[youtube]FMvGXofavpI[/youtube]
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby Max Power » 17 Oct 2013, 14:32

projeKct wrote:Nice vid indeed! The song is pretty much in the style of "Banks of Eden"...

I was wondering two things:

1) Is it the full track, or just the first half or something...?

2) Who made this beautiful video? It's the first "official TFK video" that I know of...


It seems to be the full song of Desolation road.
This man is getting sceptical :|
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Re: new Flower Kings album "Desolation Rose" (2013)

Postby projeKct » 17 Oct 2013, 23:47

Max Power wrote:This man is getting sceptical :|

What do you mean?
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